Curse

Wild Rituals · Jun 15, 2015, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Motoko

I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.

Isn't that only possible through maxing titles in post though.

Markaedw · Jun 15, 2015, 03:44 AM // 03:44

You can get rank 1 of gwamm in pre. Sweets, drunk and party animal are all available in pre add LDoA and Survivior makes rank 1.

Minions for Life · Jun 15, 2015, 04:30 AM // 04:30

but what motoko is talking about is the addition of account wide titles.

Which while impressive don't mean jack in pre. Your pre-char had absolutely nothing to do with the kurzick and luxons, blah blah blah all the other account wides.

This being said, I am not discrediting anybody's immense work when it comes to getting many of the account wide titles.

Belle Dwayna · Jun 15, 2015, 07:39 AM // 07:39

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Originally Posted by Motoko

I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.

I'm PKM for years now in pre, but I'm Very Important requires to max at least 3 pvp titles, 4 without Legendary Survivor.
So except those who syncj or paid their titles 200€ each, noone will reach this title legitimately.

Kolinahr · Jun 15, 2015, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by Motoko

I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.

I do not understand your logic. There are no rank 3 Legendary survivors in Pre-Searing yet. How can you have something more rare than that? The "potential" exists, not the actual reality, even after 4 1/4 years after the update allowed it to be achieved.

Motoko · Jun 15, 2015, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by Belle Dwayna

I'm PKM for years now in pre, but I'm Very Important requires to max at least 3 pvp titles, 4 without Legendary Survivor.
So except those who syncj or paid their titles 200€ each, noone will reach this title legitimately.

Who buys PvP titles? I've seen fame sellers but that is it.

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Originally Posted by Kolinahr

I do not understand your logic. There are no rank 3 Legendary survivors in Pre-Searing yet. How can you have something more rare than that? The "potential" exists, not the actual reality, even after 4 1/4 years after the update allowed it to be achieved.

As far as I know I'm Very Important hasn't been achieved either in pre. There are a potential 18 titles that can be maxed on a pre character. Whether the titles are achieved in pre or post the combination and end result is still impressive none the less. Rank 15 hero has been widely viable for a while now. However the other titles are more iffy. No max champ exists and won't exist legitimately ever. Codex is doable but never existed competitively. Gladiator is iffy with the known arena hack that previously existed. And hero battles and gamer have both been maxed with legitamacy.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jun 16, 2015, 10:32 AM // 10:32

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Originally Posted by Kolinahr

There are no rank 3 Legendary survivors in Pre-Searing yet.

not that i have seen any, and i dont say its not true, but how are you sure there's no rank 3 survivors there? not everyone shows the title most wanted to others, they may show kurz/lux for all they care

plenty lvl 20's in pre i have seen, which some may have that title maxed
maybe some who got both titles are busy in reallife, who knows

i dont care for survivor other than 1 char i have, which is NOT in pre, but some may just go and get it without telling or showing anyone

ps. i dont say you lie, i just say its possible some already have it, but are either inactive due to circumstances or dont show, and just play around in pre, or help others.... or barely are active in pre

i hope i'm clear with this, cuz i mean no offense

Kolinahr · Jun 18, 2015, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

not that i have seen any, and i dont say its not true, but how are you sure there's no rank 3 survivors there? not everyone shows the title most wanted to others, they may show kurz/lux for all they care

plenty lvl 20's in pre i have seen, which some may have that title maxed
maybe some who got both titles are busy in reallife, who knows

i dont care for survivor other than 1 char i have, which is NOT in pre, but some may just go and get it without telling or showing anyone

ps. i dont say you lie, i just say its possible some already have it, but are either inactive due to circumstances or dont show, and just play around in pre, or help others.... or barely are active in pre

i hope i'm clear with this, cuz i mean no offense

No screenshot=no proof=it does not exist.

This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots).

Gadd Fan · Jun 18, 2015, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Kolinahr

No screenshot=no proof=it does not exist.

This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots).

Of course a rank can exist without a screenshot. People may not go around taking screenshots for your benefit.

Also Photoshopped ranks with a so-called screenshot probably exist to fool the naive. Which doesn't mean, in turn, that there aren't real screenshots out there either. Maybe some with people who have quit the game long ago. But just remember that you can't 100% trust a "screenshot" as being a real screenshot.

Only way to "prove" it is if someone currently playing shows up in pre sporting one and you personally see it. But it doesn't mean people in the past haven't done it then left the game.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jun 18, 2015, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Kolinahr

No screenshot=no proof=it does not exist.

This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots).

you've never seen my face, does it mean my face doesnt exist?

but nvm, stay in that world of yours, and have fun.... bye (shortest time ever that i cared about defending myself, and TRYING to mke something clear)
i guess the "screen or doesnt exist" closed minded people keep existing... and i dont need to make screens for people to believe that

TheFrogMan · Jun 18, 2015, 07:03 PM // 19:03

I agree with Ayuhmii Shanbwa and Gadd Fan. Absence of a screenshot is not enough evidence to deduce that the title doesn't exist. The only way you could reasonably prove it doesn't exist is if you were able to detect, scan or view every single account in Guild Wars. Proving it does exist would be as easy as what Gadd Fan said.

That being said, I don't believe it does exist. However, there is still the possibility of someone having it and just not showing it. The majority of people in my guild don't show their titles or play with other people, so I'm sure there are other people like that as well.

Tundra · Jun 18, 2015, 08:23 PM // 20:23

however, I think that r3 survivor would be a prestigious title that you would want to show in Pre. Otherwise, there is no real point of getting in for your own benefit. Title is a title (not only gw titles) after all - achievement you can be proud of. Therefore, if no-one has seen the title, I would agree that it does not exist.

Zephyr of Light · Jun 21, 2015, 04:06 PM // 16:06

People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles.
Infact (me) and probably some others think R1 Zaishen is "cooler" to have then a R12 because wealth is a factor for obtaining it that people dont care for, and not too mention that 95% of those Zkeys were botted anyhow.

Belle Dwayna · Jun 21, 2015, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light

People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles.

I agree even if I think it's not that easy to bot a r3 survivor. One disconnection and you can restart from zero ^^.

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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light

Infact (me) and probably some others think R1 Zaishen is "cooler" to have then a R12 because wealth is a factor for obtaining it that people dont care for, and not too mention that 95% of those Zkeys were botted anyhow.

You're just jealous because we are also r1 when you're only r1 ( --> joke oc

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Kolinahr · Jun 22, 2015, 12:52 PM // 12:52

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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light

People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles.

I have never cheated in Guild Wars, and I take offense at your suggestions to the contrary.

Effort. Well... at least you said one thing right. That's what this title is all about. Not getting this title honestly would render it meaningless.... because it is about what I ask of myself, and who I have to be in order to reach this kind of goal that is important.

Lord Asakurra · Jun 29, 2015, 04:13 PM // 16:13

I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor. I believe it was ~4 years it took him to grind out that title, deathleveling with his alt account IIRC, only to have all that effort he put into it mean nothing after the new easy survivor titles.

Gadd Fan · Jun 29, 2015, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor. I believe it was ~4 years it took him to grind out that title, deathleveling with his alt account IIRC, only to have all that effort he put into it mean nothing after the new easy survivor titles.

Rage quit a game over an imaginary title? What a fool he was. Hope he went and got a life.

Belle Dwayna · Jun 29, 2015, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor.

Bullshit...

Before the pre update with the add of quests and high level mobs, it was not possible to get survivor.

Indeed, we did death leveling on charrs and the ldoa was taking 3 months to be done. The only one who managed to get ldoa + survivor before the update was a bug from a quest, giving xp without being validated and he had to chose between both titles.

Lord Asakurra · Jun 29, 2015, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Gadd Fan

Rage quit a game over an imaginary title? What a fool he was. Hope he went and got a life.

I think I'm misunderstanding your definition of "imaginary" but as far as I know he has been the only person in the history of the game to have proof and show off R3 survivor in pre-searing. Who honestly cares if he "wasted" that much time on a title- you and I have absolutely no idea what he's achieved in life so who are you to try to trvialize such a feat? I'm trying to remember his IGN but for the life of me my memory is not jogging back to 2012 :/

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Originally Posted by Belle Dwayna

Bullshit...

Before the pre update with the add of quests and high level mobs, it was not possible to get survivor.

Indeed, we did death leveling on charrs and the ldoa was taking 3 months to be done. The only one who managed to get ldoa + survivor before the update was a bug from a quest, giving xp without being validated and he had to chose between both titles.

I think you're mistaking "impossible" for "improbable". It was most certainly "possible" to get survivor before the update, however it was definitely "improbable". It was most certainly possible to death level with an alternate account to achieve both LDoA and Survivor pre-update.

Again, not trying to antagonize anybody here (I apologize if I am) but there seems to be some misinformation going around that I thought I'd help clarify for those who didn't know.

Belle Dwayna · Jun 29, 2015, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

I think you're mistaking "impossible" for "improbable". It was most certainly "possible" to get survivor before the update, however it was definitely "improbable". It was most certainly possible to death level with an alternate account to achieve both LDoA and Survivor pre-update.

How do you death leveling with 2 accounts without wiping on both ? oO
You could use a tome to get a hard rez but it's illegal and hard to imagine (those who used tomes were banned).

Have you ever played in pre ?